Hurricane Katrina relief efforts

From: Lookingheart
Subject: Hurricane Katrina relief efforts
Date: September 6, 2005

If you have a desire to help with the Hurricane Katrina relief efforts and are looking for ways to donate time, energy, food, medical supplies or financial contributions then we encourage you surf to http://welcomehere.org

We have assembled a few links to some of the most popular and effective National organization and will soon be adding additional information. Thank you for sharing with the human family in a humble manner and supporting the relief efforts where your heart is called.

The United Way
Salvation Army
American Red Cross
Direct Relief International
Brother’s Brother Foundation
Christian Relief Fund
Convoy of Hope
Desire Street Ministries
Feed the Children
The Hunger Site
Food for the Poor
Islamic Relief
Mercy Corps
Northwest Medical Teams International
Operation Blessing International
Operation USA
World Vision
AmeriCares
Samaritan’s Purse
World Emergency Relief
PETsMART Charities

Welcomehere.org is a loving effort of combined heartsongs dedicated to Spirit and the Children of the Rainbow Family Tribes.
http://welcomehere.org

From: Terry Richards
Subject: Hurricane Katrina relief efforts
Date: September 6, 2005

hey, how about if everybelly just starts moving towards the disaster. some people will meet up with somebelly else who has nothing to do so they tag along to help. some may even start to head in that direction after meeting somebelly who wants to go help out. some are closer and some farther. by the time the last<first> wave of helper-outers gets there it should be a couple hundred feet thick

From: Tha Billdozer
Subject: Hurricane Katrina relief efforts
Date: September 6, 2005

> hey, how about if everybelly just starts moving towards the disaster. some people will meet up with somebelly else who has nothing to do so they tag along to help. some may even start to head in that direction after meeting somebelly who wants to go help out. ...

Well, heading toward NO is not the smartest thing to do... since the city is under lockdown... nobody in, nobody out.

How about a gathering of the tribes ?? bring the people into the woods... show them what it’s all about.

PLUS, watching the local weather on the news... they say there are 2 more storms brewing out in the waters... and the season still has 8 weeks to go before it ends... and that we could expect at least 4 more storms.

Right now the strongest are Nate and Ophelia... and is heading for Jacksonville... and there is one in the Gulf near Tampico... with rotation.

From: Shava_X
Subject: Hurricane Katrina relief efforts
Date: September 6, 2005

> We have assembled a few links to some of the most popular and effective National organization and will soon be adding additional information.

They are planning on going in to rebuild destroyed homes, and build new ones as soon as possible...

From: Lookingheart
Subject: Hurricane Katrina relief efforts
Date: September 6, 2005

From: hippiestead
Subject: Hurricane Katrina relief efforts
Date: September 7, 2005

**Please send this Worldwide... the Rainbow Response Team, with folks like AAron Funk, Felipe, Diamond Dave, many others, hopefully, together with Seeds of Peace and Food Not Bombs, will be on a Site in Louisiana within the next couple of days...

********A call is being made for anyone inthe area, and/or skilled, repeat skilled, availble people to come to this Site... the **SITE WILL BE ANNOUNCED WITHIN NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS... **a massive effort, similar to**putting together a Gathering for 50, 000 people will be undertaken by this RRT - Ainbow Response Team.. to put up a PEOPLE’S VILLAGE ...

****obviously, persons wil have to make their own way to the area.. bring good, tools, positive vibes... etc...

**AND PLEASE FOLKS, PLEASE RALLY TO THIS CALL... Rainbow et. al. can/will make a real, good, positive contribution to helping folks get through the chaos...

******a bank account, mailing address... rendezvous SITE**will all be announced within next couple of days...

********PEOPLE GET READY! TIMES THEY ARE CHANGING... RAINBOW HELP IS NEEDED AND BEING APPRECIATED...

********love you,
******************Barry, plunker, Montana, Rainbow Family Tribe

**These are Rainbow Response Teams’ emails ****************
<crazycircusd...@yahoo.com>
<D...@hotmail.com>
<aaronfun...@hotmail.com>
<littlewhiteshackofamer...@yahoo.com>

From: Tha Billdozer
Subject: Hurricane Katrina relief efforts
Date: September 7, 2005

> Howdy,
> **********PEOPLE ARE YOU READY? YOUR HELP IS NEEDED!!
> **Please send this Worldwide... the Rainbow Response Team, with folks like AAron Funk, Felipe, Diamond Dave, many others, hopefully, together with Seeds of Peace and Food Not Bombs, will be on a Site in Louisiana within the next couple of days...
> ********Setting up Rainbow-style is being “authorized’**as “legitimate”

You gotta be fucking kidding me... who “authorized” this ?? after reading through I see this came from the president of the NRMT... figures... I hope the people are ready to live under his rules.

“WOLF” cried the little boy... BTW, ever hear of the saying “Too many cooks spoil the soup” ??

> ********A call is being made for anyone inthe area, and/or skilled, repeat skilled, availble people to come to this Site...

They want skilled people becuz your credentials will most likely be checked by the Government... so if you the average Joe Schmoe pot smoking hippie don’t show up.

> **a massive effort, similar to**putting together a Gathering for 50,000 people will be undertaken by this RRT - Ainbow Response Team.. to put up a PEOPLE’S VILLAGE ...

At first while reading this I thought Stubbie was writing it with all the spelling errors... boy, Mr. Adams is getting sloppy in his old age.

> ****obviously, persons wil have to make their own way to the area.. bring good, tools, positive vibes... etc...

And as much money as possible... the NRMT has to make a profit off this somehow.

> **AND PLEASE FOLKS, PLEASE RALLY TO THIS CALL... Rainbow et. al. can/will make a real, good, positive contribution to helping folks get through the chaos...

> ******a bank account, mailing address... rendezvous SITE**will all be announced within next couple of days...

> ********PEOPLE GET READY! TIMES THEY ARE CHANGING... RAINBOW HELP IS NEEDED AND BEING APPRECIATED...

READ = Barry Adams - President and CEO of the National Rainbow Management Team and Rainbow Inc.

> **These are Rainbow Response Teams’ emails ****************
> <crazycircusd...@yahoo.com>
> <...@hotmail.com>
> <aaronfun...@hotmail.com>
> <ittlewhiteshackofamer...@yahoo.com>

> You gotta be fucking kidding me... who “authorized” this ?? after reading through I see this came from the president of the NRMT... figures... I hope the people are ready to live under his rules.

First lie and tactic: There is no NRMT and Plunker is not the president. But this convenient lie helps set the scorn that is to follow...

> > HELP...
> “WOLF” cried the little boy... BTW, ever hear of the saying “Too many cooks spoil the soup” ??

Ever hear of folks hungry and homeless?? Ever hear of folks who’s desire is to unselfishly want to help others?? Ever see what happens when the two get together??

> > ********A call is being made for anyone inthe area, and/or skilled, repeat skilled, availble people to come to this Site...
> They want skilled people becuz your credentials will most likely be checked by the Government... so if you the average Joe Schmoe pot smoking hippie don’t show up.

Lie and tactic number two: spread some paranoia in order to discourage folks from wanting to help.

> > the **SITE WILL BE ANNOUNCED WITHIN NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS...
> NOTE: a permit will most likely be signed for this.

Lie and tactic number three: Bring up the possiblility of a permit being signed in order to discourage even more people from wanting to help.

> At first while reading this I thought Stubbie was writing it with all the spelling errors... boy, Mr. Adams is getting sloppy in his old age.

Lie and tactic number four: demean and call into question certain individuals who are working on this effort.

> > ****obviously, persons wil have to make their own way to the area.. bring good, tools, positive vibes... etc...
> And as much money as possible... the NRMT has to make a profit off this somehow.

This is a repeat from lie number one combined with the put down of lie number four,using the paranoia from lie number two.

> > ********please stand-by... get ready to go, those of you who can...
> Sorry I won’t be able to make it... got other things to do.

If you can’t put your energies into anything positive, but sure you can lie and demean the efforts of others. This is tactic number six.

> > **AND PLEASE FOLKS, PLEASE RALLY TO THIS CALL... Rainbow et. al. can/will make a real, good, positive contribution to helping folks get through the chaos...
> READ = Rainbow Inc... can’t hardly hear about A-Camp showing up.

Lie and tactic number seven: combining the rainbow lie of number one with the paranoia of lie number two and vola! You get the A-camp threat!

> > ********** and prayers are welcome...
> I’ll pray for the people whom you will be selling out this time.

> > ******a bank account, mailing address... rendezvous SITE**will all be announced within next couple of days...
> Gotta fill them Rainbow Inc. coffers

> > ********PEOPLE GET READY! TIMES THEY ARE CHANGING... RAINBOW HELP IS> NEEDED AND BEING APPRECIATED...
> Boy, am I glad I do not belong to this money grubbing cult.

> > ******************Barry, plunker, Montana, Rainbow Family Tribe
> READ = Barry Adams - President and CEO of the National Rainbow Management Team and Rainbow Inc.

> > **These are Rainbow Response Teams’ emails
> > **************** <crazycircusd...@yahoo.com>
> > <D...@hotmail.com>
> > <aaronfun...@hotmail.com>
> > <littlewhiteshackofamer...@yahoo.com>
> These are people that are part of the NRMT.

The existence of the “NRMT” was fed to you by Forest Service personel, and spread by a group of liars on this NG. But helping others obviously is not your concern - just putting down the efforts of others with your lies and tactics. i’m proud of the efforts being done by our Family to help those who need help at this moment. Too back youlive on the dark side of the moon.

From: spiritrising
Subject: Another Putdown Of Rainbow
Date: September 7, 2005

”Tha Billdozer” <bill...@rainbowphamily.com< wrote in message news:Q%sTe.42630$Nx.14182@tornado.texas.rr.com...

> Well, heading toward NO is not the smartest thing to do... since the city is under lockdown... nobody in, nobody out.

woods are flooded and roads are washed out from earlier report from rainbows in another thread. spiritrising

From: spiritrising
Subject: Another Putdown Of Rainbow
Date: September 7, 2005

”bodhi” <The_Psyched...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1126105929.653584.84930@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...

> > You gotta be fucking kidding me... who “authorized” this ?? after reading through I see this came from the president of the NRMT... figures... I hope the people are ready to live under his rules.
> First lie and tactic: There is no NRMT and Plunker is not the president. But this convenient lie helps set the scorn that is to follow...

have you ever thought that the gov. will have to condone it, by giving a permit? never happen anyway, as the forest roads are mostly washed out, as reported in an earlier thread if ya ever read things.and survivors will not have a way to get into the forest as it is. spiritrising

From: hippiestead
Subject: Another Putdown Of Rainbow
Date: September 7, 2005

Thanks a lot everyone, now I gotta start another thread (careful you don’t get hit with the drips of sarcasm) Folks are trying to get infomation through! can y’all start a separate thread for opinions and such?

and don’t bother to reply to me on this thread cuz I’m not going to pay attention.. Folks are sick, hungry, homeless & dying; no time for opinions

From: Tha Billdozer
Subject: Another Putdown Of Rainbow
Date: September 7, 2005

> now I gotta start another thread (careful you don’t get hit with the drips of sarcasm)

What you posted was directly from the NRMT president... sorry but his bullshit will not fly here... I will expose him and his group at every turn.

> and don’t bother to reply to me on this thread cuz I’m not going to pay attention..

Oh well, that’s fine... doesn’t mean I can’t expose the NRNT and their bullshit.

From: rainbowcry...@yahoo.com
Subject: Another Putdown Of Rainbow
Date: September 7, 2005

NRMT another invention brought to you from the sic k evil mind of bullshit bill..... AGR’er best known bold face liar

> hippiestead wrote:
> > Thanks a lot everyone,
> No problem.
> > now I gotta start another thread (careful you don’t get hit with the drips of sarcasm)
> Why ?? on both accounts.
> > Folks are trying to get infomation through!
> What you posted was directly from the NRMT president... sorry but his bullshit will not fly here...

youi espose nothing tell the tgruth biull.... what you mean is...that you’ll make up any lie ... to hurt those you feel hurt didnt give you the respect you dont deserve anyway

> > can y’all start a separate thread for opinions and such?
> No.
> > and don’t bother to reply to me on this thread cuz I’m not going to pay attention..
> Oh well, that’s fine... doesn’t mean I can’t expose the NRNT and their bullshit.

you cant expose any nrmt since it doewsnt exsist ....and dispite contiunued request for proof of such a group.... youve failed to give any ... and failed to convince any inteligent person that such exsists .... yer a loser bill... get used to it ... and get over it .....

From: preac...@gmail.com
Subject: Another Putdown Of Rainbow
Date: September 7, 2005

So Stubbie, ya gonna show up for Thanxgiving ?? I notice you posted no response... or is this more talk ?? you might want to contact the pholks from BOL before you bring your hatred and violnce into their homes.... you might be surprised but they may ask you to not show up.

From: -ammi...@excite.com
Subject: Another Putdown Of Rainbow
Date: September 7, 2005

> > no time for opinions
> There is always time for opinions... even ones you don’t agree with.

my opinion is that right now who gives a mandril’s blue ass about the NRMT or permits or the rest of the political blah blah yadda yadda? if folks are willing to help organize an effort to provide food and comfort to hurricane survivors those efforts should go unharrassed. there’s always time for permit rants and NRMT conspiracy theories but in the immediacy there appears to be something a bit more pressing to think about like ... hmmm. lets see ... the victims of one of the harshest storms in American history, worse even than Andrew. wow!

From: spiritrising
Subject: Another Putdown Of Rainbow
Date: September 7, 2005

<reac...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1126142624.709587.22600@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

> So Stubbie, ya gonna show up for Thanxgiving ?? I notice you posted no response... or is this more talk ?? you might want to contact the pholks from BOL before you bring your hatred and violnce into their homes.... you might be surprised but they may ask you to not show up.

From: spiritrising
Subject: Another Putdown Of Rainbow
Date: September 7, 2005

<-ammit...@excite.com< wrote in message news:1126143390.055951.90410@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

> hmmm. lets see ... the victims of one of the harshest storms in American history, worse even than Andrew. wow!

i wonder if it was worse than the largest meteor that ever hit the united states? then i wonder where it was? spiritrising

From: Glenn Battin
Subject: Another Putdown Of Rainbow
Date: September 7, 2005

Preacha Bill now its obvious you’re a wingnut without a clue about humanity. You are bent on being divisive and “right”, maligning folks and sucking up to other hosers. By your fruits I see how small you are. Experienced gatherers are planning an action to make a difference and you slam them. Where is the love? I haven’t seen it from you in person or on agr.

From: meltedown
Subject: Another Putdown Of Rainbow
Date: September 7, 2005

> i wonder if it was worse than the largest meteor that ever hit the united states? then i wonder where it was? spiritrising

From: Tha Billdozer
Subject: Another Putdown Of Rainbow
Date: September 7, 2005

> Preacha Bill now its obvious you’re a wingnut without a clue about humanity.

Sailor, Sailor, Sailor... you sad pathetic fuck... what you know about me you could fit on the head of a pin... personally, I am not overwhelmed by what has happened... same as I wasn’t when 9/11 happened... why ““ becuz people die every day... shit happens every day... if I allowed myself to get bent out of shape over everything that happened in this world I would not be able to live.

> You are bent on being divisive and “right”, maligning folks and sucking up to other hosers.

Really, who are these “hosers” you think I am sucking up to ?? and as far as Mr. Adams goes his track record speaks for itself... he is a collaborator plain and simple... I wonder how his last meeting went with the USFS ??

> Experienced gatherers are planning an action to make a difference and you slam them.

BTW, bet you didn’t know that I already know where they are heading... and it hasn’t even been posted to this forum... guess how I know this ??

AND, who do you think is “authorizing” this ?? maybe if you got your head out of his ass long enough you’d be able to see the truth.

I have no love for Mr. Adams and the other sellouts and collaborators... if you do that is your choice.

From: michael...@hotmail.com
Subject: Another Putdown Of Rainbow
Date: September 7, 2005

> > Preacha Bill now its obvious you’re a wingnut without a clue about humanity.
> Sailor, Sailor, Sailor... you sad pathetic fuck... what you know about me you could fit on the head of a pin...

From: spiritrising
Subject: Another Putdown Of Rainbow
Date: September 7, 2005

“meltedown” <gro...@reenie.org> wrote in message news:87NTe.300596$WN5.133025@fe02.news.easynews.com...

nope! largest one to hit the US was chesapeake bay virginia, 90 km in diameter. impact area is actually larger than the bay itself. spiritrising

From: spiritrising
Subject: Another Putdown Of Rainbow
Date: September 7, 2005

“Tha Billdozer” <bill...@rainbowphamily.com> wrote in message news:xqNTe.241004$gL1.27472@tornado.texas.rr.com...

actually he is wqaiting for next year so he can make more money selling something at the gathering and the person ain’t stubbie, sailor himself. sure gets mad when someone cuts his business down by giving away stuff that he sells! opps maybe he might know who i am now, oh i am scared to death better run!!! NOT! spiritrising

From: Lookingheart
Subject: Another Putdown Of Rainbow
Date: September 7, 2005

Off topic ==== There was a very large meteor that hit close to Warsaw Missouri. When it hit, hot molten sand was cast into the air and a halo of molten glass was scattered for some 200 miles. If you look at some of the stones in Missouri there are some that look like white granite balls. Locally these are called “Squirrel Brains” but look closer, they are hail stones from the molten sand from the meteor that hit near Warsaw Missouri.

> What you posted was directly from the NRMT president... sorry but his bullshit will not fly here... I will expose him and his group at every turn. Oh well, that’s fine... doesn’t mean I can’t expose the NRNT and their bullshit.

O.K.... i agree with O’Leary. Let’s expose the NRMT once and for all. Let’s reveal the orgins of the NRMT for all to see:

The “NRMT” meme is a lie spread by O’Leary which, if you believe him,was “revealed” to him by two Forest Service agents!!!! That’s right....he is spreading government propaganda.

Here’s O’Leary’s account of how the Forest Service told him of the NRMT....

> I contacted Sara Mayben back then when this all came out and spoke with her at length concerning this letter and what was written, and at the time she infomed me that there were several people that were on a list for USFS personel to contact should anything “go wrong” at a “gathering”.

> NOW, there are some that are under the impression taht EVERYONE that works for the USFS are liars and can not be trusted... and that EVERYONE in “rainbow” is 100% trustworthy and honest... I have found that the opposite is quite often the way it is. BUT, Sara Mayben provided me with 10 names of those actively working with the USFS...

> she had contact numbers for all of them... SO, if this was really “all in her head” why did she have this list of people ??obviously it was not just “in her head” but on paper as well.

> AND, then people like Da Boobie, Mrs. Stubbie and the various hosts of cowards on this forum started demanding that I post names... at first I said I wanted to give those on the list an opportunity to come foraward and show just how honest they were... BUT, when they didn’t I posted their names THEN, nobody wanted to believe that the people on the list could be doing such things... “No, not that person I know that person and they would never do something like that”... well, then explain how their name and contact information got onto a list of people to contact from the USFS ??

Like I said, it does not matter how the truth is packaged some people just don’t want to face the truth.

Here’s some more of O’Leary’s “evidence” which, again, came from the.......Forest Service.....(sigh)

Newsgroups: alt.gathering.rainbow
Subject: Supporting evidence of some things, Rainbow vs FS
Date: 8 Aug 2003 17:40:25 -0700

> I talked with a new forest ranger, hired last January after seven years of working summers. She had absolutely no idea of what Rainbow gathering is about, though she had heard of it. (ie. She didn’t know that the national moves around or that it occurs over the 4th of July.)

> However, she was familiar with the group use permit regulation She stated quite plainly that the permit is needed to allow for restrictions to be imposed. According to her, these would include the use of port-a-potties, busing into the site, a bond being posted up front, and the assignment of liability.

> She was not quoting dogma. It was a pleasant conversation with her speaking from her head and heart. I was working cleanup, and she was delivering the following letter from the district ranger. No one I’ve talked with knows who Thomas Cox is. This was how I found out that a permit had been signed for for the CO Front Range family regional. (She knew my name because we spoke briefly when we passed on the road as I came in the day before.)

> Dear Martin,

> “This letter is extending the special use permit issued to Thomas Cox for the Rainbow Family Gathering in the Buffalo Springs area. The permit is being extended to Noon on Sunday, August 10, 2003 to facilitate clean up of the site. If you or other members of the Rainbow Family are gathered on site or any trash or other debris/ material remain from the gathering after Noon on Sunday August 10, 2003 we will notify the National Rainbow Family organization and give them a notice of noncompliance for not complying with the terms of the special use permit.”

> Sincerely,
> Sara Mayben
> District Ranger

From: Billdozer
Subject: Another Putdown Of Rainbow
Date: September 7, 2005

> Preacha Bill now its obvious you’re a wingnut without a clue about humanity. You are bent on being divisive and “right”, maligning folks and sucking up to other hosers.
> By your fruits I see how small you are. Experienced gatherers are planning an action to make a difference and you slam them. Where is the love? I haven’t seen it from you in person or on agr.

Yeah, just what these people need right now... a bunch stoned out, coked up sellout hippies that want nothing but to make themselves look good while selling their Constitutional rights away... boy, lets fuck people that have already been fucked.

From: meltedown
Subject: Another Putdown Of Rainbow
Date: September 7, 2005

> Yeah, just what these people need right now... a bunch stoned out, coked up sellout hippies that want nothing but to make themselves look good while selling their Constitutional rights away... boy, lets fuck people that have already been fucked.

From: Tha Billdozer
Subject: Another Putdown Of Rainbow
Date: September 7, 2005

From: spiritrising
Subject: Another Putdown Of Rainbow
Date: September 7, 2005

“Lookingheart” <lookin...@peaceconspiracy.org> wrote in message news:1126147794.190192.198120@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

> Off topic ==== There was a very large meteor that hit close to Warsaw Missouri.

not so off topic, a very large meteor hit right where decaturville missouri is, or i should say decaturville is on the edge of the crater, right on hwy 5 before camdenton. the six is the diameter in km

From: spiritrising
Subject: Another Putdown Of Rainbow
Date: September 7, 2005

“bodhi” <The_Psyched...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1126148989.726495.282850@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...

you just prooved he is right! and i posted the list in another thread, and your name was there! lol spiritrising

From: meltedown
Subject: Another Putdown Of Rainbow
Date: September 7, 2005

> nope! largest one to hit the US was chesapeake bay virginia, 90 km in diameter. impact area is actually larger than the bay itself.

From: spiritrising
Subject: Another Putdown Of Rainbow
Date: September 7, 2005

“meltedown” <gro...@reenie.org> wrote in message news:XQOTe.302603$WN5.259629@fe02.news.easynews.com...

> Here's a great list of the largest meteorites.
> http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/List-of-impact-craters-on-Earth

From: ohlo...@hotmail.com
Subject: Another Putdown Of Rainbow
Date: September 7, 2005

> Sailor, Sailor, Sailor... you sad pathetic fuck... what you know about me you could fit on the head of a pin... personally, I am not overwhelmed by what has happened... same as I wasn’t when 9/11 happened... why ““ becuz people die every day... shit happens every day... if I allowed myself to get bent out of shape over everything that happened in this world I would not be able to live.

Nobody is asking that you get bent.. it’s obvious that you already are. What they are asking is that you show a little decency but even that is asking too much apparently. I just got back from 4 days of helping out and come on here to find you being your usual little bitch self and tying the permit into the decent actions of good folks. You are fucked in the head and soul.

> > You are bent on being divisive and “right”, maligning folks and sucking up to other hosers.
> Really, who are these “hosers” you think I am sucking up to ?? and as far as Mr. Adams goes his track record speaks for itself... he is a collaborator plain and simple... I wonder how his last meeting went with the USFS ??

> > By your fruits I see how small you are.
> Why, becuz I won’t lgive your pro-permit buddies any slack ??
> > Experienced gatherers are planning an action to make a difference and you slam them.
> BTW, bet you didn’t know that I already know where they are heading... and it hasn’t even been posted to this forum... guess how I know this ??
> AND, who do you think is “authorizing” this ?? maybe if you got your head out of his ass long enough you’d be able to see the truth.

Oh.. Oh.. please tell us Preacha Bill!!! Pretty please! Yea, right.. you know, just like you knew without a shadow of a doubt where the annual was gonna be in VIrginia. You said you knew EXACTLY. You were off by a state.

> > Where is the love?
> I have no love for Mr. Adams and the other sellouts and collaborators... if you do that is your choice.

Seems to me they are helping out... what are YOU doing? Oh that’s right.... San Antonio sent their National Guard there first, or so you claimed. You try to claim some sort of benevolency by proxy thru that fact. How sad. ANd you *know* someone who hired 8 evacuees to work for him... But what have *you* done?

From: rainbowcry...@yahoo.com
Subject: Another Putdown Of Rainbow
Date: September 7, 2005

has anyone else noticed that when bill get threatened ...or is exposedd in a lie ... he reverts to insult and charactor slurs .... but bill ... .say what every you like ... everyone knows your a liars

From: ohlo...@hotmail.com
Subject: Another Putdown Of Rainbow
Date: September 8, 2005

> has anyone else noticed that when bill get threatened ...or is exposedd in a lie ... he reverts to insult and charactor slurs .... but bill ... .say what every you like ... everyone knows your a liars

His filters mysteriously “break” too when that happens... Hey Bill..what’s it this time... new ISP? New Newsreader? ROFLMAO!!!

From: Tha Billdozer
Subject: Another Putdown Of Rainbow
Date: September 8, 2005

Sorry for jumping on another one of your posts to respond to this fucking moron... but here he goes posting lies again.

OK pholks, just to show you that Da Boobie is a complete fucktard and liar... look at waht he posted below and compare the writing style to everything I have ever posted to this forum... you will notice something missing... can you guess what ti is ??

How about the DOTS !!! please, go back and check every single post I have ever made on here and look at what I have written... the one thing you will notice is the DOTS !!! notice the clean concise writing in what he posts... I DID NOT POST THIS:

NOTE: everyone in the USFS has heard of the “Rainbow Family”... this is a lie on his part.

> However, she was familiar with the group use permit regulation She stated quite plainly that the permit is needed to allow for restrictions to be imposed. According to her,these would include the use of port-a-potties, busing into the site, a bond being posted up front, and the assignment of liability.

OK, I never refer to them as “port-a-potties”... I call them plastic shitters... or shit boxes... or if anything port-o-johns... please, if pholks doubt this go do a keyword search.

Again, a phrase that I never use... this is more of a phrase one would expect Da Booobie to use.

UHM, I never said that... in fact I felt as if she was being evasive... and really didn’t want to give up the information I was looking for... but I said that getting it would be a whole lot easier if she just answered my questions... I could always file FOIA and get the info.

That’s funny... why would I say that ?? I was nowhere near the Colorado regional that this happened at... got anymore lies you wanna post ??

> and she was delivering the following letter from the district ranger. No one I’ve talked with knows who Thomas Cox is. This was how I found out that a permit had been signed for for the CO Front Range family regional. (She knew my name because we spoke briefly when we passed on the road as I came in the day before.)

Uhm, OK... I see what has happened here... Da Boobie has taken something that someone else posted concerning the NRMT and attributed it to me... proving yet again that he will try to spin this so that he and his buddies won’t get caught selling people out.

The person at clean up that Sara Mayben contacted and the person that origiannly posted this to this forum.

> “This letter is extending the special use permit issued to Thomas Cox for the Rainbow Family Gathering in the Buffalo Springs area.

Funny, I know Thomas... he signed the permit under duress... they promised to clear a ticket he got in Arizona if he signed... otherwise they were gonna throw him in jail for the max allowed under the regs.

> The permit is being extended to Noon on Sunday, August 10, 2003 to facilitate clean up of the site. If you or other members of the Rainbow Family are gathered on site or any trash or other debris material remain from the gathering after Noon on Sunday August 10, 2003 we will notify the National Rainbow Family organization and give them a notice of noncompliance for not complying with the terms of the special use permit.”

WEll, there you have it pholks... right there in black and white... proof positive that the NRMT exists... thank Da Boobie for yet again bringing this proof to light.

Remember, not everyone that works for the USFS is a liar... and that there are a lot of people that wear the “rainbow” name on their sleeve are some of the biggest liars you will ever meet... chief among them is Da Boobie.

From: Tha Billdozer
Subject: Another Putdown Of Rainbow
Date: September 8, 2005

From: michael...@hotmail.com
Subject: Another Putdown Of Rainbow
Date: September 8, 2005

> OK pholks, just to show you that Da Boobie is a complete fucktard and liar... look at waht he posted below and compare the writing style to everything I have ever posted to this forum... you will notice something missing... can you guess what ti is ??

No nasty offensive profane name calling, no anti homosexual rhetoric, no mysogyny. You’re right, it can’t be from you.

From: spiritrising
Subject: Another Putdown Of Rainbow
Date: September 8, 2005

“Tha Billdozer” <bill...@rainbowphamily.com> wrote in message news:bOPTe.241042$gL1.181697@tornado.texas.rr.com...

From: Glenn Battin
Subject: Another Putdown Of Rainbow
Date: September 8, 2005

> Sailor, Sailor, Sailor... you sad pathetic fuck... what you know about me you could fit on the head of a pin...

I am not Sailor. Many folks here and many more on the land and in the family know me. Sailor is someone else.

From: ohlo...@hotmail.com
Subject: Another Putdown Of Rainbow
Date: September 8, 2005

Seeing how you posted this and never gave credit to the original author in your post, it is apparent you WERE trying to claim it as your own. You are right thoug, it’s written way more intelligently than you could possibly ever hope to write. Only after you were called on it did you confess it wasn’t your writing, but Terry’s... another anti-permit fanatic whose word is certainly not 100% truth. So what of YOUR many talks with the FS, Bill? Can’t provide your own proof of an NRMT? Nothing in Terry’s proves anything other than the FS has a contact name or number and calls it the Rainbow Organization. Governments have an innate need to classify and compartmentalize everything. What would they call it?

From: Terry Richards
Subject: Another Putdown Of Rainbow
Date: September 8, 2005

> but Terry’s... another anti-permit fanatic whose word is certainly not 100% truth.

> Nothing in Terry’s proves anything other than the FS has a contact name or number and calls it the Rainbow Organization.

From: spiritrising
Subject: Another Putdown Of Rainbow
Date: September 7, 2005

“Terry Richards” <sn00...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:J53Ue.7224$Tn6.4765@bignews6.bellsouth.net...

some made up paper that bodhi posts no such message in history at google, don’t worry about it, you know how he lies anyway. spiritrising

From: Terry Richards
Subject: Another Putdown Of Rainbow
Date: September 8, 2005

> some made up paper that bodhi posts no such message in history at google, don’t worry about it, you know how he lies anyway. spiritrising

Newsgroups: alt.gathering.rainbow
From: mcompe...@earthlink.net (martin) Date: 8 Aug 2003 17:40:25 -0700
Subject: Supporting evidence of some things, Rainbow vs FS

Newsgroups: alt.gathering.rainbow
From: Tha Preacha Bill
Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 03:49:08 GMT
Subject: Well, looky what I found.....

> WELL, looky what I found... here it is for ALL to see... the original post that exposed the “National Rainbow Managemet Team”... now, any more questions ??

Newsgroups: alt.gathering.rainbow
Subject: Supporting evidence of some things, Rainbow vs FS
Date: 8 Aug 2003 17:40:25 -0700

From: spiritrising
Subject: Another Putdown Of Rainbow
Date: September 8, 2005

“Terry Richards” <sn00...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:UI6Ue.5217$fS3.1654@bignews3.bellsouth.net...

From: spiritrising
Subject: Another Putdown Of Rainbow
Date: September 8, 2005

“bodhi” <The_Psyched...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1126235451.212102.236710@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

why not post the message link with the message. true colors yep! no such message that day. with that subject header. spiritrising

From: Terry Richards
Subject: Another Putdown Of Rainbow
Date: September 8, 2005

From: woodstock
Subject: Another Putdown Of Rainbow
Date: September 8, 2005

> ohlo...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > but Terry’s... another anti-permit fanatic whose word is certainly not 100% truth.
> what did i miss?

aw man! They really trashed ya. Can’t even step off for a few hours even. Now you’ll hafta read 500 back posts to catch up. -woodstock-

From: Terry Richards
Subject: Another Putdown Of Rainbow
Date: September 8, 2005

> aw man! They really trashed ya. Can’t even step off for a few hours even. Now you’ll hafta read 500 back posts to catch up. -woodstock-

From: spiritrising
Subject: Another Putdown Of Rainbow
Date: September 8, 2005

“bodhi” <The_Psyched...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1126238284.505586.29500@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

1. martin Aug 8 2003, 7:40 pm hide options
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Date: 8 Aug 2003 17:40:25 -0700
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> However, she was familiar with the group use permit regulation.

> She stated quite plainly that the permit is needed to allow for restrictions to be imposed. According to her, these would include the use of port-a-potties, busing into the site, a bond being posted up front, and the assignment of liability.

> She was not quoting dogma. It was a pleasant conversation with her speaking from her head and heart. I was working cleanup, and

> she was delivering the following letter from the district ranger. No one I’ve talked with knows who Thomas Cox is. This was how I found out that a permit had been signed for for the CO Front Range family regional. (She knew my name because we spoke briefly when we passed on the road as I came in the day before.)

> Dear Martin,

> Sincerely,

> Sara Mayben
> District Ranger

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Now would this be Garrick beck, who signed as the contact person? Or would it be the RMT?
((((((((((((your original post!!!!!!!!!!)))))))))))))))))))

Here’s O’Leary’s account of how the Forest Service told him of the NRMT....

From: spiritrising
Subject: Another Putdown Of Rainbow
Date: September 8, 2005

“Terry Richards” <sn00...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:pD7Ue.5757$fS3.3880@bignews3.bellsouth.net...

From: Lookingheart
Subject: Another Putdown Of Rainbow
Date: September 8, 2005

Well there’s one more lie that Bodhi cant wrangle out of. How ya gonna spin that Bodhi? \:D/

> Well there’s one more lie that Bodhi cant wrangle out of. How ya gonna spin that Bodhi?

How can this beconceived as lying? Martin wrote the post and O’Leary used it as part of the “evidence” he had of the existance of the NRMT.

> Newsgroups: alt.gathering.rainbow
> From: Tha Preacha Bill
> Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 03:49:08 GMT
> Subject: Well, looky what I found.....

> WELL, looky what I found... here it is for ALL to see... the original post that exposed the “National Rainbow Managemet Team”... now, any more questions ??

The story is so obviously false and riddled with holes that it’s surprising that anyone “sane” would use it to booster his already questionable credibility.

And the “looky what i found” gee whiz.You REALLY bought this story of the NRMT?? God,you must feel like an asshole. You and the rest of your friends were so certain of it’s existance and so serious about it’s implications. Except it was a lie.

But Bill did write an “eyewitness account” - apparently the ONLY proof he has of the dreaded NRMT - which, by the way, he obtained by contacting a Forest Service Officer..... So it’sobvious that anyone who uses the words “NRMT” in their posts as proof of their actions, as you do often Lookingheart to booster your crumbling credibility, should be feeling pretty foolish by now after reading O’Leary’s lame “proof”......

> BUT, Sara Mayben provided me with 10 names of those actively working with the USFS... she had contact numbers for all of them... SO, if this was really “all in her head” why did she have this list of people ??obviously it was not just “in her head” but on paper as well. AND, then people like Da Boobie, Mrs. Stubbie and the various hosts of cowards on this forum started demanding that I post names...

From: spiritrising
Subject: Another Putdown Of Rainbow
Date: September 9, 2005

“bodhi” wrote in message news:1126245549.077176.292830@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...>

> How can this beconceived as lying? Martin wrote the post and O'Leary used it as part of the "evidence" he had of the existance of the NRMT.

but you posted he wrote it, now get out of that! thats why i knew he hadn’t, and even on that thread oleary the last name wasn’t even used, but his jewish name he has. like i said you lied! and i don’t care how many times he posted it or even responded to it, he didn’t write it! spiritrising

From: Tha Billdozer
Subject: Another Putdown Of Rainbow
Date: September 10, 2005

> but you posted he wrote it, now get out of that! thats why i knew he hadn’t, and even on that thread oleary the last name wasn’t even used, but his jewish name he has. like i said you lied! and i don’t care how many times he posted it or even responded to it, he didn’t write it!

Wow, you are right... HOLY FUCKING SHIT !!! there it is right there in black and fucking white !!! he lied and was caught red fucking handed forging headers on posts to further his lying... boy, thanx spirit !!!

- Go to Google Groups
- Next to the “search” button choose “advanced search”
- Group = alt.gathering.rainbow
- Author = martin
- Dates 7/August/2003 to 9/August/2003

And read away... notice something as well... people asking for names in this thread:

One of Us
Thistle (yup, that’s right the very same Thistle that now outright denies the existance of the NRMT)
Sanity (a given)
Carla (reigning queen of fence sitters)

BUT, the stunning lie as posted on this forum recently is that I, William O’Leary, Tha Preacha Bill, Tha Billdozer did not post anything to that thread... I, Eliyahu Simchah did post to that thread... to be exact messages 15,16,19 and 20 using the email address

Well yeah, I would also love to see how he spins his way out of this one... should be loads of fun !!

From: bodhi
Subject: Another Putdown Of Rainbow
Date: September 10, 2005

Why would i want to “spin” my way out of the truth? Martin wrote the orginal post and you used his “evidence” to booster your claims.

While googling i mistakenly attributed Martin’s account as yours, but that was because you had incorporated his account as “proof” Anyways, this is what i wrote in response to your “looky here” and it is still valid today:

sorry Barney, but you are wrong. The whole basis for holding the Ozark regional as a “permit-free” gathering is based on the lie that Rainbow’s basic institutions and traditions have been delibertly subverted by a secret groups of high holies. Preacha Bill has named these individuals on this group several times, and Marty and Sanity have used it’s existence as a reason to “boycott” the Annual. But it’s a lie. That a Permit might be signed by a “wingnut” this year is deplorable but shouldn’t be the reason to hold seperate gatherings. We should hold the Forest Service responsible for subverting our traditions and institutions. But not Marty, Sanity, Preacha Bill and Lookingheart, Nope, they attack the Rainbow Family itself and tries to engineer it’s own destruction by fostering fear, distrust, paranoia, and hate AGAINST OURSELVES by spreading a damnable LIE!

From: spiritrising
Subject: Another Putdown Of Rainbow
Date: September 10, 2005

“bodhi” wrote in message news:1126363899.199669.285680@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

> While googling i mistakenly attributed Martin’s account as yours, but that was because you had incorporated his account as “proof”