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The New Waveland Café – part 5


From: HTFiddler
Subject: Rainbow in Waveland, MS
Date: September 19, 2005

“Hot meals are being provided by a mobile kitchen set up by people affiliated with the Rainbow Gathering. “Diamond Dave”, a beat poet from Haight Ashbury in San Francisco is serving as our communications messenger to update on Waveland.”

Full article:
http://www.michaelmoore.com/mustread/covington.php?id=28

From: Rich in Spirit
Subject: Rainbow in Waveland, MS
Date: September 19, 2005

Thanks Henry for the update and for lifting the spirits in life in general. Play on!

Love Everyone Unconditionally,
    including Yo’self!

From: theotherbarry
Subject: Rainbow in Waveland, MS
Date: September 19, 2005

Just talked to Hawker in Waveland, Miss. He says the biggest need continues to be camping gear. Thousands of people lost their homes, and any serious reconstruction won’t begin for months. He says FEMA is telling them that power won’t be on for at least three months, water three months after that. They get tractor trailer loads several times a day, but there’s never enough tents, stoves, cots, flashlights, etc. to go around. Apparently, the Chinese government donated a bunch of large tents, and the British Rotary Club gave a lot of small tents, but they’re already gone.

The other greatest need is workers. The crew that is there now is getting tired, and while many new folks are coming in, they aren’t always “hard workers”. People with kitchen experience or skilled at organizing chaos are especially needed. If you want to plug in, be prepared to be self-sufficient at first; bring tents, etc. Important! Credit cards and checks are worthless; bring cash. Once you are plugged in & working you’ll be fed, but on the way there, most stores that are open have no phones or electicity, so cash only.

RJ has given his permission to post his cell phone #: 828-280-6338. Call if you want to plug in or send supplies. Reception is spotty, so you may have to leave a message, & he’ll call back. Also, RJ has a blog going at: www.newwavelandcafe.blogspot.com

Barry
Asheville NC

From: Carla
Subject: Rainbow in Waveland, MS
Date: September 19, 2005

HTFiddler wrote:

> "Hot meals are being provided by a mobile kitchen set up by people affiliated with the Rainbow Gathering. "Diamond Dave", a beat poet from Haight Ashbury in San Francisco is serving as our communications messenger to update on Waveland."

Very cool. Nice that the folks working so hard are getting their efforts recognized.

From: Ricke...@lycos.com
Subject: Rainbow in Waveland, MS
Date: September 20, 2005

On 19 Sep 2005 07:58:06 -0700, “theotherbarry” <bs...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> The other greatest need is workers. The crew that is there now is getting tired, and while many new folks are coming in, they aren’t always “hard workers”. People with kitchen experience or skilled at organizing chaos are especially needed.

I am confused as to why people are overworked, and why more volunteers are needed. Can the local people there in Mississippi not cook or help out?

From: Carla
Subject: Rainbow in Waveland, MS
Date: September 20, 2005

RickeyBerry@Lycos.com wrote:

> I am confused as to why people are overworked, and why more volunteers are needed. Can the local people there in Mississippi not cook or help out?

Apparently you have never tried to cook for crowds of people before, or ogre a kitchen. It’s an art form, and it takes a lot of practice. Not everyone can do it. I’m sure there are plenty of local folks helping, but it takes way more than that. If you will notice, the post asked for specific experience and skills. Organizing meals for thousands of people in primitive conditions is not like whipping up breakfast for a family of five on a Sunday morning.

The folks who do Rainbow kitchens have the skills and experience needed to keep things running smoothly, turn out nutritious meals, use resources wisely, make sure good health and sanitation practices are being observed, keep non-workers out of the kitchen, answer a million questions from folks who are completely out of their element, keep the scene mellow, point folks to necessary facilities such as handwashing and dishwashing stations, referee arguments, and last but not least, keep the food from burning. You have no idea how quickly thousands of people can get sick if all the bases aren’t covered. It is not a job for amateurs.

From: spiritrising
Subject: Rainbow in Waveland, MS
Date: September 20, 2005

<RickeyBerry@Lycos.com> wrote in message news:i69vi1lj73nkgodtehqm5u8b9inr1uuiuv@4ax.com...

> I am confused as to why people are overworked, and why more volunteers are needed. Can the local people there in Mississippi not cook or help out?

there is a town real close to me that adopted waveland, so they post alot of info for the news readers, they said they needed bedding dishes, and hygeine items and thats all. also shown where there is no buildings up or safe to live in except for the sparce few. they can probally cook just fine, but why not eat free and sponge off someone else’s nickel?     spiritrising

From: sonny
Subject: Rainbow in Waveland, MS
Date: September 20, 2005

“HTFiddler” <htfi...@attglobal.net> wrote in message news:1127106395.789625.3500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...

> "Hot meals are being provided by a mobile kitchen set up by people affiliated with the Rainbow Gathering. "Diamond Dave", a beat poet from Haight Ashbury in San Francisco is serving as our communications messenger to update on Waveland."

Blessed Be...Wish we could be there ..but Kids school and work make it improbable if not impossible..

  Give Hugs of encouragement to Dave,Felipe and All
    You are in our prayers daily.
      SonnySax , Mer ,Jos,and Jojo

From: Ricke...@lycos.com
Subject: Rainbow in Waveland, MS
Date: September 21, 2005

On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 23:21:16 -0700, Carla <ca...@efn.org> wrote:

> Apparently you have never tried to cook for crowds of people before, or ogre a kitchen. It's an art form, and it takes a lot of practice.

Apparently and obviously I havn’t. Thanks for some explaination, because, now, I can see I am not needed, and I won’t take the time to consider going to the area. These things should be made clear in all of the invitations to come to the area, because there may be many readers considering the trip that are too nieve to know they shouldn’t go. I’ve seen several posts asking for “hard workers” that do not specify that only the “skilled” need apply (come to the area). There are probably many posts similar to the few I’ve seen. It might be a good idea for posters to AGR to mention that they are refering to experienced Rainbow organizers only (a very small group), so the average person reading this newsgroup won’t invest any time in contemplating, or packing, or heaven forbid, actually driving across country to help out in a kitchen. Thanks again, because if no one had bothered to answer my question, or if I hadn’t thought to ask it, I might have been on my way to Mississippi in a few days. Hopefully, the posters asking for help will read this, and consider my suggestion.  Rick

From: Terry Richards
Subject: Rainbow in Waveland, MS
Date: September 21, 2005

RickeyBerry@Lycos.com wrote:

> Thanks again, because if no one had bothered to answer my question, or if I hadn’t thought to ask it, I might have been on my way to Mississippi in a few days.

if you feel compelled to lend a hand then by all means do so

/|\

From: Carla
Subject: Rainbow in Waveland, MS
Date: September 21, 2005

RickeyBerry@Lycos.com wrote:

>Apparently and obviously I havn’t. Thanks for some explaination, because, now, I can see I am not needed, and I won’t take the time to consider going to the area.

No, no, you miss my point. (Or you are being sarcastic, which is probably more likely.)

I was not trying to discourage you or anyone else, I was answering your question about why local folks’ help isn’t enough. So my answer was very limited in scope.

Hard workers -are- very much needed, as well, from out of the area. Folks who have done gatherings who are very hard workers are not necessarily organizers, but they have experience in coordinating with others, creating community, and working in harmony in primitive conditions. If you have any of these qualities, you should go. If all you have is attitude, you probably shouldn’t.

From: spiritrising
Subject: Rainbow in Waveland, MS
Date: September 21, 2005

<RickeyBerry@Lycos.com> wrote in message news:ckp1j19886addenn6amg1un5abu7p6bc03@4ax.com...

> Apparently and obviously I havn’t. Thanks for some explaination, because, now, I can see I am not needed, and I won’t take the time to consider going to the area.

you can still donate to the ones who supply many down there, the red cross and some other enities have a pipeline for donations, and could address what is needed, that they don’t already have. need a link?   spiritrising

From: Dia
Subject: Rainbow in Waveland, MS
Date: September 21, 2005

Are you ok over there in Florida Rich in Spirit?
Much Love, Blessings and Safety to you dear brother,
May your house be passed over, your roof remain intact, and your music equipment stay dry.

Dia

From: Dia
Subject: Rainbow in Waveland, MS
Date: September 21, 2005

Remember, the folks local to the disaster area have been through a huge and overwhelming drama. They are exhausted, they have lost family, homes, pets and stuff. They are desolate. They are sorrowful. They are afraid. They may not be feeling very empowered right now. Think 3 weeks after a national gathering, clean up crew...who had been kitchen crew throughought the gathering, maybe even seed camp before...working steady for 6 weeks or more now, tired...way tired...people can only do so much before they just can’t do anymore, can’t take anymore. What many people affected by the hurricane need right now is fresh, calm, peaceful, competent people to be there and help them get the basics covered. Sure, many folks in the area might be able to help out in the kitchens or in the disposition of supplies, but really, it is important to consider how very hard this has been on all of them.

Peace,
Dia

From: Carla
Subject: Rainbow in Waveland, MS
Date: September 21, 2005

Dia wrote:

> Remember, the folks local to the disaster area have been through a huge and overwhelming drama. They are exhausted, they have lost family, homes, pets and stuff.

Well said.

From: foote
Subject: Rainbow in Waveland, MS
Date: September 22, 2005

Dia wrote:

> Think 3 weeks after a national gathering, clean up crew...who had been kitchen crew throughought the gathering, maybe even seed camp before...working steady for 6 weeks or more now, tired...way tired

from my experience doing a few nationals...most of the cleanup crew i know just do cleanup

... a few do stay ...the whole time from start to fininish.... but most workers split and move on to other happenings by july 10th... leaving just the cleanup crew... mostly the same crew year after year...

i know cause i’ve been there from day1 after the site is picked ....to being the last to leave the site...

besides the biggest thing about cleanup is not actually cleaning up the mess...but getting people to leave so the mess can be cleaned up... If its possible most people would like to stay and gather at the site for the rest of the summer if they could...

there are millions of people in the USA SE area that where not affected by Katrina... who certainly could do the grunt work...like washing dishes...serving food...etc or can be easily trained to do so... without importing workers from Alaska or California...or elsewhere.... these are not special rainbow skills... anyone can do this stuff....if they are physically capable of doing it...

i’ve seen wheelchair people dig shitters for nationals...

heck people who never drove forlifts ... are doing so now for the Red Cross ..cause they are desperately needed now....

fffffff

From: Carla
Subject: Rainbow in Waveland, MS
Date: September 22, 2005

foote wrote:

> there are millions of people in the USA SE area that where not affected by Katrina... who certainly could do the grunt work...like washing dishes...serving food...etc or can be easily trained to do so... without importing workers from Alaska or California...or elsewhere.... these are not special rainbow skills... anyone can do this stuff....if they are physically capable of doing it...

Seems to me the point is that anyone from anywhere who can help in whatever way they can, and who is willing and able to do so, should follow their hearts. I hear echoes of “ditto heads” implying that the people should be able to help themselves. I have no doubt that the people there are doing all they can. This disaster is beyond the scope of imagining for most of us. The need for outside help is absolutely real, and ongoing.

From: foote
Subject: Rainbow in Waveland, MS
Date: September 22, 2005

“Carla” <ca...@efn.org> wrote in message news:4332B853.EE927F56@efn.org...

> Seems to me the point is that anyone from anywhere who can help in whatever way they can, and who is willing and able to do so, should follow their hearts. I hear echoes of "ditto heads" implying that the people should be able to help themselves.

gonna be at cleanup next year Carla????

...great way to loose weight....nah you won’t be there... to much work.. haven’t seen you there yet....you probably would help spend the cleanup money set aside for cleanup instead...

also the cleanup crew is a bunch of hard and dedicated workers... some committed to getting every cig but on the ground.. before they leave...

i’m not implying the refugees help themselves....but the millions of others living in the area...or who’s ever go the time and energy to do so and wants to go... should.....

waveland is not 100% rainbow... there are a LOT of other people there ... i heard about a local state medical school there running ... the medical tent... great i like to see that happen... than a medical school from ca show up....

fffffffff

From: spiritrising
Subject: Rainbow in Waveland, MS
Date: September 22, 2005

“foote” <tjf...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:cLCYe.1575$X6.1563@fe05.lga...

> also the cleanup crew is a bunch of hard and dedicated workers... some committed to getting every cig but on the ground.. before they leave...

whats funny is people in cities are so used to government picking up the trash, that they walk right by it, and never see it! until that trash is inside whats left of their home. when it is all over and everything is back to as normal as it could be, they will again ignore what they are not responsible for in their eyes.    spiritrising

From: Terry Richards
Subject: Rainbow in Waveland, MS
Date: September 22, 2005

foote wrote:

> from my experience doing a few nationals...most of the cleanup crew i know just do cleanup

last time i went to ocala we ran into a couple sisters who were just arriving with the sole intention to do cleanup...first thing, they helped lug our stuff out

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From: Pronoid
Subject: Update from Waveland, MS
Date: September 21, 2005

New Waveland Cafe Expands
Rita Threatens Texas Coast
REMA Activates the Rainbow Emergency Network

While the New Waveland Cafe moves into spacious new quarters, the Rainbow Emergency Management Assembly (REMA) continues to monitor the progress of Hurricane Rita as it races across all that 90 degree water in the Gulf of Mexico on a collision course with the densely populated Texas Gulf Coast.

We’re now working in conjunction with ACT, a Seventh Day Adventist disaster response group, BCOC, as well as all local authorities who now tell us the New Waveland Cafe is the largest feeding kitchen on the Mississippi coast. Accordingly, they have provided multiple large shelters, supplies, equipment, National Guard engineering troops for design and construction projects.

The expanded New Waveland Cafe should be able to accommodate 5000 people comfortably at each meal. Some people travel 50 miles just to get our home cookin’ and to visit our friendly clinic that is open and staffed 24/7.

Meanwhile, we’re closely monitoring the progress of Hurricane Rita in anticipation of landing another emergency relief kitchen on another devastated area in Texas as soon as the weather permits. Our Rita response will be a consuming topic of discussion at tonight’s 8pm meeting.

After our 8pm meeting, we will discuss possible joint operations with the folks we’ve been working with here, Bastrop Community Outreach Center (BCOC). These folks have families in the path of Rita because they are from Texas. We’ve had the opportunity to work closely with them for the past week and a half and they are Family whether they know it or not. I will disseminate the contents of these meetings later.

I think we need to be realistic about this one, folks. Assuming the 90 degree Gulf waters and favorable winds don’t slow down Rita, this storm could be even worse than Katrina and will affect a far more densely populated area. Jim Gray, the meteorologist whose forecasts on hurricanes have been the most accurate over the years, said today that he’s only seen one storm that looked worse than Rita: Katrina.

I’m on the ground here and can make the following observations and predictions based on our experience.

1. The federal government will put on a show but will provide very little of value. Brownie may be gone, but the upper echelons of emergency management are populated with incompetent cronies who appear to be more concerned with PR and their own comfort than the people they allegedly serve. What resources and competent line officers they do possess (most of FEMA) are thinly stretched over the vast wasteland left by Katrina and bureaucratic mismanagement. I can see the spin machine warming up now. Prepare to be dizzy.

2. The Military and National Guard response will be inadequate. Over half of the Texas National Guard is in either Iraq or MS/LA. Bush trumpeted the great feat of sending 5000 Guard Troops to Texas. To do what? Secure Houston’s shopping district? Multiply that number by ten and we’re getting more realistic.

As a side note, the military and National Guard deployed here in Waveland have been helpful, hard-working, and qualified for the jobs they are doing (which is what they signed up for). However, they are too few. BTW, about 50 of them are regulars at the New Waveland Cafe.

3. Texas Gov. Rick “Goodhair” Perry will prove to be the most incompetent public servant in history, eclipsing Brownie as government boob of the year. The State of Texas is completely bankrupt due to insane fiscal policy since 1994 (stealing from the government and giving to Enron). Count on very little from the state except for well disciplined professional law enforcement officers who will rise above the chaos above them. And spin.

4. The Red Cross, Salvation Army, and the usual relief groups had to fill so many gaps usually filled by the federal government during emergencies, they are deployed in numbers that defy their capabilities. They are already stretched far too thin and will only be able to mount a minimal response that will detract from ongoing and extremely necessary operations responding to Katrina.

As a sidebar, the Red Cross is attempting to break through its own red tape and deploy the wave of volunteers who showed up in the wake of Katrina, attended disaster training, and awaited assignment. If you intend to take the Red Cross route, go get your disaster training now. Deployment often takes a long time.

That leaves the folks who have responded so generously to Katrina: all the churches, civic organizations, and our own little anomoly, REMA. It started out as a joke sign I hung on my bus. Now it looks like something able to raise a coordinated quick response from our base of operations here in the central Gulf Coast at the New Waveland Cafe.

One thing we showed ourselves and other disaster responders: we’re really good at landing quickly and getting aid to folks who need it. We take our experiences from Katrina with us as we consider expanding into another theatre.

Stay tuned for updates. As I wrote before, we are monitoring Rita and preparing a potential response based on need and resources at hand. We may need you, whatever equipment you have in your garage or barn, your expertise, and most of all, your prayers.

Because we may be all the stands between life and death for the millions about to be impacted by Rita on one side and a criminally inadequate government response on the other.

Let’s all pray for a cold wind out of the north to blow Rita apart.

Much Love
Arjay

For those of you who have been asking, I’ve just updated my blog. Our internet is pesky here.

Contact:
Arjay Sutton newwave...@yahoo.com
Blog www.newwavelandcafe.blogspot.com
Donations: http://tinyurl.com/cqdky

From: Terry Richards
Subject: Update from Waveland, MS
Date: September 21, 2005

Pronoid wrote:

> Because we may be all the stands between life and death for the millions about to be impacted by Rita on one side and a criminally inadequate government response on the other.
> Let’s all pray for a cold wind out of the north to blow Rita apart.

there are quite a few trucks loaded down with ice and supplies here in so fla that will most likely go to texas instead of south to key west.

/|\

From: spiritrising
Subject: Update from Waveland, MS
Date: September 21, 2005

“Pronoid” <pronoid...@excite.com> wrote in message news:1127339056.304457.247870@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

> New Waveland Cafe Expands
> Rita Threatens Texas Coast
> REMA Activates the Rainbow Emergency Network

more update for waveland , they have been adopted by jefferson city missouri, for a detailed list of neccessary items that waveland residents and community service needs explore web site:     spiritrising

http://www.jeffcityhelps.org/

next load leaves next week, and voluteers are gearing up to show right after rita.

From: bodhi
Subject: Update from Waveland, MS
Date: September 21, 2005

“New Waveland Cafe is the largest feeding kitchen on the Mississippi coast.”

Wow! Lots of warm fuzzy feelings being send your way.
As long as we have compassion, we can survive anything - even Katrina,
Rita, earthquakes, floods....
We’re holding our breath,and praying.

namaste;
bodhi

From: Traveler
Subject: Update from Waveland, MS
Date: September 21, 2005

“Pronoid” wrote in message news:1127339056.304457.247870@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

> New Waveland Cafe Expands

Check his Blog - he writes well.

www.newwavelandcafe.blogspot.com

From: Terry Richards
Subject: Update from Waveland, MS
Date: September 21, 2005

bodhi wrote:

> “New Waveland Cafe is the largest feeding kitchen on the Mississippi coast.”

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/09/325044.shtml
http://www.chronicle.duke.edu/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/09/14/43280538f21b2

/|\

From: Terry Richards
Subject: Update from Waveland, MS
Date: September 21, 2005

Traveler wrote:

> Check his Blog - he writes well.
> www.newwavelandcafe.blogspot.com

does points 1, 2, 3, and 4 have a funny ring to them?

are they suppost to be how “rainbow” feels? gives me the creeps

/|\

From: spiritrising
Subject: Update from Waveland, MS
Date: September 21, 2005

for a whole lot of photos of the parking lot chack this;

http://www.rrstar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Site=D1&Date=20050901&Category=PHOTOGALLERIES&ArtNo=901001&Ref=PH

From: Traveler
Subject: Update from Waveland, MS
Date: September 21, 2005

“Terry Richards” <sn00...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:8QmYe.264$DV4.73@bignews1.bellsouth.net...

> Check his Blog - he writes well.

Didn’t find a points 1,2,3 or 4 on his blog. Where do I look?

T

From: spiritrising
Subject: Update from Waveland, MS
Date: September 21, 2005

“Traveler” <rasc...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:xqmdnRC0jcFlnq_eRVn-ug@comcast.com...

> Didn’t find a points 1,2,3 or 4 on his blog. Where do I look?

kinda waste of time, go to the other url and read the real story without the hype! and exageration.    spiritrising

From: Traveler
Subject: Update from Waveland, MS
Date: September 21, 2005

“spiritrising” wrote in message news:%DnYe.1029$Ur.75@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...

> kinda waste of time, go to the other url and read the real story without the hype! and exageration.

Sometimes I like “Just the Facts” like Dragnet, sometimes I like the emotion of self discovery.

I waste lots of time - it’s a survival technique that leads me thoughtlessly to tomorrow. Not always the easiest thing to do. Sometimes the unexamined life is better than Prozac.

T

From: Terry Richards
Subject: Update from Waveland, MS
Date: September 21, 2005

Traveler wrote:

> Didn’t find a points 1,2,3 or 4 on his blog. Where do I look?

read in the middle of the origin of this thread, promise of a better day? or doom and gloom, we are better than them? creepy i tell ya

/|\

From: Terry Richards
Subject: Update from Waveland, MS
Date: September 21, 2005

spiritrising wrote:

> kinda waste of time, go to the other url and read the real story without the hype! and exageration.

compare notes:

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/09/325044.shtml

http://www.chronicle.duke.edu/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/09/14/43280538f21b2

/|\

From: Terry Richards
Subject: Update from Waveland, MS
Date: September 21, 2005

spiritrising wrote:

> kinda waste of time, go to the other url and read the real story without the hype! and exageration.

some people will run off with our gold if we tell them where it is...

/|\

From: Traveler
Subject: Update from Waveland, MS
Date: September 21, 2005

“Terry Richards” wrote in message news:QSnYe.374$DV4.308@bignews1.bellsouth.net...

> read in the middle of the origin of this thread, promise of a better day? or doom and gloom, we are better than them? creepy i tell ya

Sorry - misunderstood where ya meant

I see your point. I admit I glossed over the political rant - I ususally do in most folk’s posts. At heart, I seek blissblindness - over the years using many a varied, purposeless and educational method.

I look for what I want to see.

Makes me not so different I guess from what he did in his post with his presumption of future guilt by them that be.

T

From: Terry Richards
Subject: Update from Waveland, MS
Date: September 21, 2005

Traveler wrote:

> Sorry - misunderstood where ya meant
> I see your point. I admit I glossed over the political rant - I ususally do in most folk’s posts. At heart, I seek blissblindness - over the years using many a varied, purposeless and educational method.

i usually glaze over meself but this particular person coresponded with me in depth and expressed disgust with rainbow gatherings then organized a permit in/to one of our national forests near me and seems to have commercial interests.  http://www.floridagathering.info/permit.htm

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From: spiritrising
Subject: Update from Waveland, MS
Date: September 21, 2005

“Terry Richards” <sn00...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:f2qYe.480$DV4.452@bignews1.bellsouth.net...

> i usually glaze over meself but this particular person coresponded with me in depth and expressed disgust with rainbow gatherings then organized a permit in/to one of our national forests near me and seems to have commercial interests.

that and a few more things too!    spiritrising

From: Carla
Subject: Update from Waveland, MS
Date: September 22, 2005

Terry Richards wrote:

> i usually glaze over meself but this particular person coresponded with me in depth and expressed disgust with rainbow gatherings then organized a permit in/to one of our national forests near me and seems to have commercial interests.

Understood.

However: self aggrandizement, personal and political agendas nothwithstanding, good works should not be negated.

From: Terry Richards
Subject: Update from Waveland, MS
Date: September 22, 2005

Carla wrote:

> However: self aggrandizement, personal and political agendas nothwithstanding, good works should not be negated.

nor plagerized

/|\

From: Carla
Subject: Update from Waveland, MS
Date: September 22, 2005

Terry Richards wrote:

> nor plagerized

LOL! Good one!

From: Terry Richards
Subject: Update from Waveland, MS
Date: September 22, 2005

Carla wrote:

> LOL! Good one!

i am on the war path. some half asses trying to crack my ‘puter they are using systems in bulgaria and poland looking for M$

/|\

From: spiritrising
Subject: Update from Waveland, MS
Date: September 22, 2005

“Carla” <ca...@efn.org> wrote in message news:4332445A.47D78ACC@efn.org...

> However: self aggrandizement, personal and political agendas nothwithstanding, good works should not be negated.

thats like telling a guy who does everything for the poor then goes off to kill someone, well lets forget about the bad thing he has done so much good! yeah right your so full of shit!     spiritrising

From: spiritrising
Subject: Update from Waveland, MS
Date: September 22, 2005

“Terry Richards” <sn00...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:6PrYe.552$DV4.95@bignews1.bellsouth.net...

> i am on the war path. some half asses trying to crack my ‘puter they are using systems in bulgaria and poland looking for M$

kinda hard to do on yours isn’t it, bet they thought they were playing with windows!     spiritrising

From: Terry Richards
Subject: Update from Waveland, MS
Date: September 22, 2005

Terry Richards wrote:

> i am on the war path. some half asses trying to crack my ‘puter they are using systems in bulgaria and poland looking for M$

the boneheads triangularized on me, ha ha ha

/|\

From: spiritrising
Subject: Update from Waveland, MS
Date: September 26, 2005

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0509210183sep21,1,1195697.story?coll=chi-newsnationworld-hed&ctrack=1&cset=true

By Dahleen Glanton

Tribune national correspondent
Published September 21, 2005

WAVELAND, Miss. -- In the midst of this hurricane-crippled town, a refuge has emerged in an unlikely place--the parking lot of a crumbling Kmart store.

It is where destitute residents go for the essentials of life--a hot meal, a doctor’s exam, a bar of soap. And in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, which washed away the post office, the Salvation Army and almost every home, it is one of a few places where a handout does not seem like charity.

They call this makeshift community swarming with volunteers Camp Katrina. In the model of one-stop shopping, it is a store, a restaurant, a hospital, an unemployment office, a loan center, a federal housing claim office and an animal shelter underneath a cluster of tents big enough for a circus.

But it is more than that. While the federal government has been criticized for its slow response to the hurricane-stricken areas, Camp Katrina has emerged as perhaps the most shining example of Americans helping other Americans.

It has attracted hundreds of volunteers from across the country--church members, nurses and doctors, students and business people. They are doing what some lawmakers say must become the new standard for disaster relief--less dependence on government and more reliance on community.

Rev. Rick Long and members of his Christian Life Church in Orange Beach, Ala., arrived here four days after Hurricane Katrina hit. The parking lot was cluttered with debris and water-soaked cars. It seemed like the perfect place, Long said, to park their trucks of food, their fish cookers and grills.

Waveland, a community of about 9,000 people, is where the destruction of Hurricane Katrina was among the worst. But until the church showed up, no organized groups had come to help.

Across the Bible Belt state of Mississippi, faith-based groups have led relief efforts, taking up the slack in a mission so vast that it has overwhelmed professional relief sources such as the American Red Cross and the Federal Emergency Management Agency.

According to Long, churches have fallen naturally into the role, and their services complement those offered by the government.

“We live in a society where we look to the government to fix all our problems. But like government, churches have a role, the community has a role and individuals have a role,” said Long, whose church has donated more than $250,000 in aid.

“When a catastrophe like this happens, it requires something from everyone. There are things the government can do well, but there are things the churches can do better,” he said.

FEMA spokesman Gene Romano said volunteers are crucial to every aspect of the recovery process.

“Disaster assistance starts locally and ends locally,” Romano said. “These volunteers will still be here when the federal programs have provided all they can. They will be here helping people clean up their yards and make home repairs that were not covered” by FEMA or homeowners insurance.

In the three weeks since the hurricane, Camp Katrina has grown into a massive complex, the most comprehensive relief center along the Mississippi Coast. Church members feed up to 5,000 people a day at the “New Waveland Cafe.”

Truckloads of donated supplies arrive every day at the distribution center, where toiletries, household goods and clothes are placed neatly on shelves and in boxes. Hurricane victims push carts along the aisles, taking as much as they need as if they had won a free shopping spree.

“This is their lifeline. If it were not for the church, these people would have nothing at all,” said Rev. Jimmy Blackwell, who oversees the operation for Christian Life. “When we set up the convoy in the middle of the night, people started coming out of the darkness like a rescue ship had pulled up on a deserted island. And they are still coming.”

Live music poured from the New Waveland Cafe on Sunday as people lined up for a hot meal of fried tilapia, candied yams, baked beans and salad. And at 7 p.m., there was preaching and singing for those who wished to stay.

Volunteers from dozens of churches, including Heartland Community Church in Rockford, Ill., and Willow Creek Community Church in South Barrington, Ill., are cycled in every week. They sleep on cots in a common space beneath a huge tent.

Once local residents arrive, services are abundant. FEMA has a tent where people can register for business loans and housing assistance. There are billboards listing available jobs, as well as those where people can place information on missing loved ones.

Red Cross volunteers distribute cases of cleaning supplies, such as bleach, mops and brooms. BellSouth has a booth where people can make free telephone calls. Public health nurses walk around with bullhorns offering free tetanus shots.

At the edge of the complex, a FEMA-funded mobile medical unit occupies two 53-foot tractor-trailer rigs. Inside the units, doctors, nurses, paramedics, psychologists and pharmacists, volunteers who comprise the North Carolina State Medical Assistance Team, have attended to more than 1,700 patients in less than two weeks on the scene.

Renee Brown, a building contractor from Talking Rock, Ga., and Scott Petty, a co-worker from Stockbridge, Ga., have been in Waveland over a week delivering tents and supplies to people who have nowhere to go and no way to get there. She is troubled, Brown said, that the spotlight seems to be fading on the town where people still need so much attention.

“If it rains real hard, everything we have done will fall apart,” said Brown. 34, who gets emotional talking about devastation she has seen. “Right now, everyone is running on adrenaline, but what will happen when everyone leaves and residents are left to fend for themselves?”

But resident Judy Faye said she believes Waveland not only will be rebuilt as a better city, but its residents will be better citizens.

“This is awesome,” said Faye, 57, while having dinner at the New Waveland Cafe. “This is a tent where everyone, including the poor and the underclass who no one wanted to be around, have to sit down with everyone else and sit together and have a meal. If this hurricane has taught us anything, it is that God treats everyone the same.”

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From: Hawker
Subject: Update from Waveland, MS
Date: September 26, 2005

This is a very strange article because the editor seems to have screwed it up. There were two main relief centers in Waveland. The New Wavland Cafe, which was in the Freds location and Camp Katrina which was in Kmart. Camp Katrina focused mostly on Medical issues (with a large field hospital), bulk supplies distribution and FEMA contact info. NWC focused on personal items and food. This article talks about items from both camps like it was one camp, which of course, it was not. I wonder what happened here.

Hawker

From: meltedown
Subject: Update from Waveland, MS
Date: September 26, 2005

Hawker wrote:

> This article talks about items from both camps like it was one camp, which of course, it was not. I wonder what happened here.

Giving the reporter and the the people he talked to the benefit of the doubt, it seems he talked to someone in Camp Katrina who told him the name, and then the reporter assumed that name applied to the whole shebang, not just part of it. It could easily have been an innocent mistake.

One way to tell is to ask the reporter, and he’ll probably apologize. Even if someone in camp Katrina deliberately misled him, he should have gotten it right. If he doesn’t apologize, then maybe he thinks the hippies are just niggers, but I wouldn’t just to that conclusion until he has a chance to fix it.

That’s why I hate to write for money, facts are sometimes slippery things, even with the best intentions. I’ve made similar mistakes, and I’ve also had the editor insert his stupid bullshit after I went to great lengths to get it right.

From: Hawker
Subject: Update from Waveland, MS
Date: September 26, 2005

On 9/26/2005 10:32 AM, The digits of meltedown’s hands composed the following:

> One way to tell is to ask the reporter, and he’ll probably apologize. Even if someone in camp Katrina deliberately misled him, he should have gotten it right.

I tried to get to the site and ask about it but could not get back in. My guess is it was not the reporters fault but the editor. Some of that article is about Camp Katrina, some is about NWC. Some is mixed (discussing Camp Katrina events as if they happened in NWC space). So I think the reporter reported on both locations and the editor did not realize they were two spots when the article was chopped.

I’m seeing quite a bit of this for some reason. I am not sure why actually.

Hawker

From: Carla
Subject: Update from Waveland, MS
Date: September 26, 2005

Hawker wrote:

> This article talks about items from both camps like it was one camp, which of course, it was not. I wonder what happened here.

Would have been nice if the Rainbow volunteers had gotten some credit, too.

From: Hawker
Subject: Update from Waveland, MS
Date: September 26, 2005

On 9/26/2005 10:54 AM, The digits of Carla’s hands composed the following:

> Would have been nice if the Rainbow volunteers had gotten some credit, too.

They didn’t get credit because this article was not about the “FREDS” location where BCOC, Rainbow and 7th day adventists were. It was about the K-Mart location, which was mostly Carolina Medical and a few other small groups.

My issue was the article talked about both locations as if they were one given credit to that location for the work done at the other location and confusing the two locations.

Hawker


From: Nightshade
Subject: REMA- Katrina Relief
Date: September 22, 2005

These are great posts,

It’s a little like, how any hand is needed when, the “experienced organizers” are burned out.

The update message I’m receiving, is,.. we’re burned out, send fresh bodies, and experience the solidarity that we have down here.

This same message will resonate through the whole relief effort as the months pass by. Spirit may be right about posting your donations through a national relief agency, however... I’m still in the game about making your donations directly to the family “relief agency”, and will be, till they call it “done”..

Here’s your links,

To the CALM DONATE general medical fund http://tinyurl.com/836ps

To Hawkers WATER fund (it all goes to the same place) http://tinyurl.com/cqdky

My email is still flowing with various offers to help. I would have to say, make sure you’re sound of mind, temperment, and body...and get yo butt down there!!!

Loving you,

Nightshade

From: Nightshade
Subject: REMA- Katrina Relief
Date: September 22, 2005

yup, another one..

I live in Arizona and am a consumer/paraprofessional in the mental health field. I would like to offer my services if anyone is in the area and needs them. If you have any questions, please email me and I will be happy to answer any that you have. in love and light,

From: Nightshade
Subject: REMA- Katrina Relief
Date: September 22, 2005

oh what the hell, here’s another one,

We have about 50 acres available for refugees

Our family is opening up our land to Katrina refugees. We have about 50 acres of land that could be used for tents, many tents. However, we do not have any food or water to offer. We are trying to find a refugee service that would be willing to set up on the land to make things a little easier for those on the land. If you know of any, please feal free to forward this note to them....

From: Nightshade
Subject: REMA- Katrina Relief
Date: September 22, 2005

loving all of it... (paste)

Greetings,

We have a small family business, Simmons Natural Bodycare, and we mainly make soap. I have heard you will be working to aid in the relief effort for Hurricane Katrina victims.

If you can use soap donations for that, or for other things you do during the year... particularly if you do not mind receiving cosmetic seconds (got dents and such) or end cuts and odd pieces, we would be honored to send some to you.

Please let me know and, if yes, where to send them, etc....

From: Nightshade
Subject: REMA- Katrina Relief
Date: September 22, 2005

and it goes on..

If you care to call yourself family, you should probably be in the posistion that I am now in..how to direct all this light toward it’s proper destination.

I could use the help.

This link will be posted to all respondents mentioned above.

Please tread lightly with responsibilty,

Nightshade

From: spiritrising
Subject: REMA- Katrina Relief
Date: September 22, 2005

“Nightshade” <nightsh...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1127385689.914986.184070@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

> This same message will resonate through the whole relief effort as the months pass by. Spirit may be right about posting your donations through a national relief agency, however... I’m still in the game about making your donations directly to the family “relief agency”, and will be, till they call it “done”..

heres the list of whats truley needed:
http://www.jeffcityhelps.org/ListOfNeeds.htm

the washers and dryers will go to a state park in that town, they have power there and it will give those people in town a place to wash clothes and such for free.Also needed are canned food, towels, sheets, work gloves, large hand tools, cooking utensils, pots and pan, gas or charcoal grills, and cleaning supplies. they have piles of clothes atr this time and no where to store them(no homes) they do have plenty of tents at this time, until more people come into town, the cleaning supplies and other items for city government to get back into gear would be helpful.

here is the main site:
http://www.jeffcityhelps.org/Index.htm

From: Carla
Subject: REMA- Katrina Relief
Date: September 22, 2005

Nightshade wrote:

> If you care to call yourself family, you should probably be in the posistion that I am now in..how to direct all this light toward it's proper destination.
> I could use the help.

Thank you so much for doing this. Am now at the point where I am investigating how I might be able to get off work for awhile to get down there. It will be a few weeks before I can pull all the threads together, but I intend to try. No doubt the need will continue for a long time, whether or not Rita causes similar devastation.

Carla

From: sonny
Subject: REMA- Katrina Relief
Date: September 22, 2005

Family WELCOME here....in Atlanta....404-202 7316

 

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